i'm starting to believe the bethel higher ups are trolling us.
the outright contradictions and stuff like overlapping generation is too ridiculous.
calling out the harold camping when we did the same thing.
Of course you are welcome to stay, Heavensgate. I think it is good to have active JW apologists here. As well as other fundies. It illustrates some things/issues very effectively. You have made some such issues very obvious.
Most of all, I think you presence here has been important for defender/DOT. He has got some new insights last week, and is spending this night doing some research! Keep up the good work, Heaven!
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
"Personally I have found JW politeness soon turns to arrogance when they are confronted with questions which they are unable to understand let alone at least reason on."
That's sad but true. But Defender is really honest and open-minded. I understand if he/she is a bit p*ssed of at Heavensgate right now. Go on with your research, D O T
had a sit down chat with an elder who is aware of my doubts.
we were on the subject of new light, i was saying that if the org changes a teaching then the old teaching was wrong and cannot qualify as truth at the time it was taught, so where did the falsehood come from?.
his response was the gb is imperfect!!
Bravo, Comatose! Many fundies inclusive many JW's don't get that point. If you believe the bible story Judas had an important role in getting Jesus to die as a ransom. His betrayal had to happen. Don't blame Judas. Christians/JW's should be thankful to him. No Judas no ransom.
have you ever read your old posts and thought, " omg... i am a friggin nutter!!!
" lol!!
i just read through some things that "defender of truth" reminded me of.
Old posts! Hmmm...one of my first posting was a link....to a certain video in sign-language. When rebel 8 followed that link and watched the video, she started this thread. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/adult/235152/1/wts-made-a-video-about-masturbation-IN-SIGN-LANGUAGE-WITH-GESTURES#.UxZ4P-N5OSo
I think a lot of us had a good laugh. :-)
i offer this with out further comment:.
12 the mosaic law made it a capital offense to profane gods name.
(leviticus 24:16).
That's a good one! But never understimate the power of cognitive dissonance!
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
To DOT
You might be intrerested in this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/183607/1/new-understanding-of-the-generation#.UxZYq-N5OSo
It's about the overlapping generations. It was a rumour published here already in 2009.
i'm starting to believe the bethel higher ups are trolling us.
the outright contradictions and stuff like overlapping generation is too ridiculous.
calling out the harold camping when we did the same thing.
Have a look at this thread! http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/183607/1/new-understanding-of-the-generation#.UxZYq-N5OSo
The overlapping generation news was published here at JWN in 2009!
Internet history
apparently jack barr, member of the gb, has given a new interpretation of the generation in one of his speaches i.e.
that the generation can apply to those who knew someone who lived in 1914..... will it never end????
it's embarassing!
Bumping bump bump!
This thread is important. It's the first thing published about the overlapping generations. About half a year earlier than it came in the WT.This is internet history!
you know you have been out of the organization for some time when no members of the present governing body were "ruling" during your sojurn.
i have tried to keep up with who is a member and learn a bit about each one.. of the current crop, i find anthony morris iii to be the most grating and irritating to listen to.
who do you find the most annoying?
I think Gerrit Lösch is the longest serving among the present GB, but I'm sure.
When I left Fred franz was president. And yes, Sanderson is some years younger than me! :-)
as of yet, no member of the jehovah's witness faith can defend their unique beliefs.
when the dust settles, it all comes down to blind faith in men's ever-changing ideas.
this "unique belief" was not a "true teaching of the bible.
Hi Data-Dog!
Of course I don't believe you!
I assume you don't believe me.
We are both apostates and thus not trustworthy!
But I do hope that people here have some sence of humour.!
By the way , english is not my nativ language. I probably write like a child or an idiot. It's strange that Outlaw was attacked for his way of expressing himself. But I did not. I am afraid that i sound much more childish!
